Adore Weddings & Events Celebrating Laughter, Love & Light

We’ve been featured!

Tash and Raj’s AMAZING wedding has been featured in Rock ‘n Roll Bride’s Magazine!!! The level of excitement is ridiculous!

To see their full, wonderful wedding, have a look here. Jax has one again outdone herself! Love you Tashy and Raj! A lifetime of colour, laughter, love and light to you both xxx

Venue: Picadilly Farm
Catering: Paula Mckenzie
Drink: The vodka portion of the bar was proudly sponsored by the Polish contingent.
Flowers & Decor: The flowers, décor, lighting and overall pretty stuff was a massive collaboration between Sunshine Adore Weddings, Ash, Woogy, our two amazing families and us (human and me).
Hair & make up: Lindsay Nixon
Dress: Ciociu Ella
Tux: Pierre Cardin Tux, with a bit of improvising.
Sound: DJ Ross
Photography: Jacki Bruniquel
Second Shooter: Elizabeth Donnell

What a wedding really costs!

Wedding planning can be overwhelming. Not everyone is involved in the industry every weekend, specifically with the planning of a wedding the way I have been, so it can be difficult to figure out exactly how much each aspect of a wedding can cost. Derryn and I have been talking about creating a shoot and article discussing the realistic costs involved with translating your Pinterest board wedding into reality ever since her wedding. This article is our way of saying, “these are the realistic costs involved with using a professional for your wedding.”

So often I have met with clients who have no idea of what to expect in terms of cost. It has been great to have a platform to openly, honestly discuss the costs involved with a wedding set up. After working on this article for over a month, Derryn has written a balanced, realistic piece discussing both general challenges faced by her clients, and her own personal journey as a bride. We hope it will be a helpful, realistic guide for you during your wedding budgeting and planning process! Derryn’s article follows below.

See the original post on her website here

In October last year I got married. So many people said to me, “Well it’ll be easy for you, you’re in the industry!”. I’d always smile politely but think to myself, if THIS is easy, then what is the regular bride going through??!!

This led to conversations with my decor and flower friend, Carolyn from Adore weddings. We chatted about how overwhelming planning a wedding can be and about how difficult it is for couples to get their dream wedding on a budget. Instead of prioritising and spending money on a few aspects that are really important to us, we try to do it all. I often hear stories of couples entering marriage overwhelmed with debt because they didn’t stick to their budget – or worse, they didn’t have one!

In my experience as a bride, the key to wedding planning is PRIORITISING. My advice is that you sit down together as a couple and think hard about what is really important to you – allocate funds in those areas and then rely on friends and family for the rest.

My husband and I sort of did this, but I wasn’t true to myself and I didn’t have my dress in the top 5 list. Long story short, I ordered a cheapy online – FAIL! Then I went to a cheap dress maker – FAIL AGAIN! I finally went to a dress designer, whom I paid more than I ever thought that I would, BUT who made me the dress of my dreams!

I just had no idea that a dress of that quality would cost that amount. I truly believed that I could get the quality that I wanted for R2000 online. I had no idea what flowers cost, I had no idea what venues charged, I had no idea what it would cost to hire a tent or a generator or candle sticks! Being a photographer meant nothing! I was as ignorant as your average person.

Since then, I have found myself asking brides “so, hows the planning going?” and then beginning a lengthly chat about vendors, suppliers and costs.

So when Carolyn approached me and asked if I wanted to do a styled shoot with her, I said yes on the condition that we would use it as an opportunity to educate our friends and clients on what our services really cost. We feel that if you go into the process with a better understanding of what it costs to throw a top class event for 100 people, you will feel less overwhelmed when the planning begins and hopefully allow yourselves the time to save appropriately.

Weddings are not cheap – we are NOT trying to rob you – but if you are after a certain standard or quality (as I was with my dress and as I hope you are with your photography) you will need to read this.

Since I am a wedding photographer, let’s start there…

Wedding photography in Durban can range greatly in cost. From my research, the average price for decent quality photography is between R10 000 – R25 000. Anything below this is maybe a little sub-standard, or they are possibly just starting their business (I started at R6000). When I look back at the work that I was producing at the beginning of my career, I cringe a little – but those prices and that quality of work suited those clients. Anyone who is charging above R25 000 and getting bookings, is likely to be very experienced and talented. What you pay for photography will depend on how much you prioritise photography in your wedding budget. If you hire a photographer in JHB or CT you are likely to pay about 20% more.

so, here are my packages…


  • Basic Package: R14 000
    8 hours wedding coverage, roughly 400 photos on USB.

  • Regular Package: R17 500
    10 hours wedding coverage, roughly 600 photos on USB, 1 large lay flat album.

  • Luxury package: R19 500
    12 hours wedding coverage, roughly 800 photos on USB, 1 large lay flat album, 2 small coffee table books.

For all couples regardless of the package chosen, I send a link to a personal gallery the week following their wedding with an overview of their wedding day.

When browsing through wedding photographers, be sure to take note of the type and style of the album you will receive. See an example of my wedding albums here.

FLOWERS & DECOR: Adore Weddings

Flower crown: R225

Bouquet: R575

WEDDING DRESS: Julia Ferrandi Designs

Getting a wedding dress made by a designer can be a costly process and the variables can be overwhelming. Be honest with your designer about your budget and what you feel comfortable affording, this helps us tailor a dress to your budget. Don’t be afraid to ask questions about all the costs involved. I am very open about where your money is going and itemise my quotes. Some designers don’t do this but it doesn’t hurt to enquire on where you can save money without compromising on design value or quality. Remember, going to designer is costly however you are getting the invaluable benefit of experience and quality.

Things to avoid if you are budget conscious are too much lace appliqué. This includes those fabulous illusion necklines ladies, where the lace appears to float effortlessly on your skin. This is not magic but rather the skilled hand of a designer. This is expensive for two reasons, it is very time consuming and takes incredible skill to create a seamless finish on barely there sheer mesh. Opt rather for a design that focusses on a strong silhouette using plain fabrics or a whimsical textured tulle skirt. This can be equally fabulous and have that WOW factor you are looking for.

The cost of the dress featured in this shoot is R 16 500.

This dress in inspired by the textures of beach sand and the clean lines of a shoreline. This design represents the simple design philosophy of our brand “fashion design, done simply, done well”. The dress features a delicate halter neckline, plunging cut outs and sheer lace appliqué. The slim fit skirt is made in a fully beaded silk georgette that is comfortable to wear and flattering from every angle.

HAIR & MAKE UP: Make-me-up

Kezia says: “Makeup and hair is a huge part of your photos! There’s nothing worse than looking white or creepy in photos you want to look at for the rest of your life!”

For makeup we charge R550 for the bride (because she gets some extra special attention) and R450 for the bridal party. Those include bridesmaids, moms, grans or anyone else wanting their makeup done.

Hair styling for the bride is R500 and the rest of the bridal party is R300.

We then charge a travel fee to get to the venue, unless you are getting married in or around Durban, the travel fee then wouldn’t apply.

Some brides like to order a touch up kit for the day. This is usually a powder (Kryolan), lipstick (MAC) and a few clips for the hair/veil etc. This touch up kit generally costs R350-R450

CATERING: Funny Bunny

When I was researching wedding catering for my wedding, the average cost was R300 per head. Catering just wasn’t at the top of our budget, so we opted for something cheaper but still amazing. We had a gourmet braai with 4 salads by Cyniggy. The cost for catering was R150 per head. It was perfect for us…memorable, delicious, filling.

If you are having a more casual wedding and feel that a 3 course plated meal just doesn’t suit your vibe, I would totally recommend some local cuisine in the form of snack platters from Funny Bunny.

Pickle Photography and I held a networking event after the shoot, and hired Funny Bunny to cater for us. Well….people are STILL talking about the food.

Savoury items are 3 to 4 bites each and guaranteed to fill the gap at the end of the night.

  • Mini Lukka Burger:
    A rich brioche bun and a free range beef patty smothered in pineapple bacon jam (say what?) and red pickled onions

  • Mini Lamb Bunny:
    Slow braised lamb shoulder in a paprika, mustard and green chilli sauce, pickled carrots and red cabbage

  • Mini Wors roll:
    Cheese stuffed chilli wors on sauerkrout with a sweet mustard sauce and crispy shallots

  • Mini Veggy Burger:
    Brioche Bun, slow roast portabellini mushroom, and deep fried Brie topped with red pickled onions

  • Mini Veg Bunny:
    Butter beans, kidney beans and chickpeas, braised with tomato potatoe and the mother in law, pickled carrots and red cabbage


Mini chocolate and mint tart, mini Lemon tart, mini lemon merangue pie, mini cooked berry flan, mini melk tert, mini chocolate ecclair.

Costs from Jordan of Funny Bunny:

4 items – 4 savoury R100 p/p
6 items – 4 savoury 2 sweet R120 p/p
8 items – 4 savoury 4 sweet R140 p/p

Transport: R4.50 per KM return to Durban

Equipment hire: R500

Servers not included, if tray service is required please inform and we can make a plan for you.

Back to Carolyn who did our flowers and decor…

Every client has different requirements with regards to the look/feel they are going for, the number of guests (therefore number of tables and amount of flowers and decor) they will have, as well as their budget. Flower and décor quotes are therefore tailored according to each client’s individual needs. Consultations are available at Adore’s studio at a rate of R300 per hour.


100 guest wedding with banquet tables including set up, excluding candles

4 rows of banquet tables, 4 tables long with:

2 x rose gold tea light candle holders @ R15 each
2 x large arrangements in dark urn @ R700 each
1 x small arrangement in copper vase @ R320
2 x bronze candle stick holders @ R65 each
2 x hexagonal copper candle holders @ R85 each

Total décor and flower cost: R28 000

Set up and break down: R2500

Delivery and collection: R6 per km

Hanging wreaths = R205 each


100 guest wedding with banquet tables including set up, excluding candles

4 rows of banquet tables, 4 tables long with:

2 x rose gold tea light candle holders @ R15 each
1 x large arrangements in dark urn @ R700 each
2 x hexagonal copper candle holders @ R85 each
5 x hanging lamps @ R50 each
3 x hanging wreaths @ 205 each

Total décor and flower cost: R15 265

Set up and break down: R2500

Delivery and collection: R6 per km

VENUE: Ciao Bella

Ciao Bella weren’t able to give us a cost as they are still working on their 2015 wedding prices.

What I can tell you though is that it is an AWESOME venue. Apparently the space was originally used as a holding cell for female prisoners. It’s on Mahatma Gandhi Road (more famously Known among locals as Point Road) The area and the venue has SO much character and charm.

I am totally aware that the prices I have given you above are NOT the cheapest in the market. If you do some looking around, you will find companies that can provide a service for less. These are MY recommended suppliers. I trust their work and I value the service you will receive from them. When planning a wedding, its not just the end result that you need to consider but the journey working with service providers.

I really hope that this break down of costs has helped you to see what a wedding (as seen in this shoot) can cost you, and helps prepare you for the big event that you are planning. Weddings are an expensive affair, BUT if you are true to yourselves as a couple and if you are honest about your budget, you can make it work.

Don’t forget – at the end of the day you are beginning your marriage. You have him and he has you… don’t lose sight of that!

Big thanks to Dani, our super gorgeous model and to EVERYONE who was involved in the shoot.

Photography: Derryn Semple Photography
Derryn Schmidt: 0825632282

Make up and hair: Make-me-up
Kezia Myatt: 0832677098

Dress Design: Julia Ferrandi Design
Julia Ferrandi: 0724304100

Decor and flowers: Adore Weddings
Carolyn McNeil: 0833644658

Catering: Funny Bunny
Jordan: 0791859353

Venue: Ciao Bella
031 3325917

(Feel free to search the hash tag ‘pickleandschmidt’ on instagram to see more pics of the venue, food and decor)

We’ve been featured!

An enormous thank you to both Gaby from SouthBound Bride for being named “Gaby’s favorite” on her list of Top 20 Bouquets of 2014, and to my wonderful friend Kerry for being the bride who let me (literally) go wild with her bouquet! Sheer, joyful gratitude and delight!

This is the bouquet … and this is the gorgeous bride. When I arrived to drop the bouquet with Kerry, I was so nervous! It was so gloriously big and she is such a gorgeously petite human, I was so nervous it was going to be too much. She simply gasped and said, “let’s add more!”. A woman after my own heart!!!

We’ve been featured!

It is such a joy to get to relive this special wedding! Thank you Wedding Inspirations Magazine for the wonderful feature! Thank you too Lara and Mike, you wonderful souls, for the spectacular day and for going from clients to incredibly dear friends. Jacki Bruniquel, you are incredible. Thank you for capturing this day in all it’s romantic, whimsical, beautiful, loving glory!

Sheer joyful delight to each of you. Enjoy friends x

A big, happy thank you to all the wonderful suppliers involved with this special day:
Photography: Jacki Bruniquel
Venue: Netherwood
Second Shooter: Tash Schoeman
Wedding planner and stylist: Carolyn Mc Neil Adore Weddings
Decor: Functions For Africa
Flowers: Floey Van Der Plank
Hair: Drew Christie
Make up: Natasha Papadopoulos and Kendyl McPherson – Nixon Makeup
Brides Dress: Pronovias Barcelona, Johannesburg
Bridesmaids dresses: Bianca Warren
Groom’s Suit: Terrance Bray
Cake: Penny Mc Loughlin 0825693766
Music: Zaffa (Rob and Garth Warren)
Videographer: Beyond Measure
Priest: His Eminence, The Orthodox Archbishop of Cape Town, Sergios Kykkotis and Pater Kostandinos
Food: Harvey’s Catering
Wedding stationary design: Fathima Kathrada
Wedding stationary printers: Crystal Printers

We’ve been featured!

Happy days! Jon & Jess’ beautiful Wychwood wedding, captured by Kate Martens Photography has been featured on SouthBound Bride!

See the full post here. Enjoy friends!

A heart felt thank you to everyone involved in making this day so lovely!
Ceremony & Reception venue: Wychwood
Catering: CHC
Photographer: Kate Martens
Co-ordinator: Adore Weddings
Videographer: Josh Hundermark
Cake: Lemon Canary
Flowers & décor: Wychwood, family and friends
Stationery: Daloon Design – Claire Armstrong
Bride’s dress: Carol Hein
Bride’s accessories: Lovisa
Hair : Charmaine de Vreiss
Make Up: Lisa van Lelyveld
Bridesmaids’ dresses: YDE
Groom’s attire: Trenery
Hiring: James Carlson from Hairy Munster Productions
DJ: DJ Worx

We’ve been featured!

Our Haunted Affair, halloween inspired styled shoot has been featured on SouthBound Bride!

And now for some words from Christy about our shoot:
We have been loosely chatting about a Halloween Styled shoot for a while – we wanted something that incorporated “Day of the Dead” but without all the colors, more spooky and old fashioned, something a bit haunting. So many people were involved in making this happen, brainstorming together and sharing ideas – I honestly worked with such a dream team with everyone giving so freely of their time and resources. We didn’t even have a proper dress for Gina, her outfit was made up of two separate tutus, her matric dance skirt, a corset and a belt that came together at the last minute. With me being a hefty 36 weeks pregnant at the time, I think a lot of people feared I might actually go into labour before the shoot so it was quite funny!

On the actual day I had no idea what to expect, we all managed to pull it together by the skin of our teeth and when we took a step back and had a look at the set, I don’t think any of us could have imagined how beautifully it all came together! After Candice transformed Gina and Durran – we really got into the swing of things and as always, just had SO much fun! Gale force winds came up and tried desperately to blow everything and everyone away, but we still pulled it all off and I for one could not have been happier!

View the full post here. Enjoy friends!

Many thanks to our awesome team:
Photography: Christy & Morgan Hosking from Pickle Photography
Styling: Sarah Reynolds
Florist: Carolyn McNeil from Adore Weddings and Events
Cake: Candice Courtney from So Whipped
Invites & stationery: Gitta from Glee Projects
Make-Up: Blush Make-Up by Candice Mathee
Hair: Jamie-Lee Hay from Head Girls
Models: Gina C Lorenzi from Models International & Durran Trevison

We’ve been featured!

Oh what a happy day! Jadine and Byron’s completely romantic wedding has been featured on international wedding blog, Junebug Weddings! What a happy day. Thank you Vanilla Photography, The Make_Up Artist, The Litchi Orchard, Lemon Canary, Casey Jeanne and company for your extraordinary talents, and for making this special couple’s day such a beautiful one!

Have a look at the lovely post here. Enjoy friends x

We’ve been featured!

Our special shoot with the lovely Taz Saunders has been featured on The Pretty Blog. What a honour!

An enormous and heart felt thank you to the creative talents of Bron from Vanilla Photography for the amazing pics, Camilla from The Make_Up Artist for the pretty hair and make up and Ash from Jom & Mefor the romantic skirt!

See the full post here. Enjoy friends x

We’ve been featured!

It’s official, our first ever Rock ‘n Roll Bride feature is up! Tashy and Neil’s gorgeous, unique, fun, colour fest of a wedding has been celebrated on one of my all time favorite blogs in the industry!

Have a look at the full post here. Enjoy friends x

We’ve been featured!

What an honour! Kerry and Jem’s beautiful wedding has been featured on one of my all time favorite blogs, Southbound Bride! Thank you Kerry and Jem for letting me dream and play for your magical day, thank you Gaby for the feature (and good bouquet vibes - happy heart), and thank you Katie for capturing the day so beautifully!

Have a look at the feature and Kerry’s sage wedding advice here. Enjoy friends!

We’ve been featured!

This is happening soon! Our first ever Rock ‘n Roll Bride feature! Raj and Parrot‘s awesome Mexican Day of the Dead inspired wedding will be on the coolest wedding blog in the near future. Tash, Raj and Jacks, you guys ROCK!

Such happy delight x

We’ve been featured!

Our styled shoot has been featured on The Pretty Blog! What an incredible honour! Thank you to the Pretty Blog team for including us!

See the full feature here.

An enormous thank you to the team involved in making this special day come together so beautifully:
Decor: Planned to Perfection and Adore Weddings
Dresses: Ashleigh Hulley of Jomb & Me
Hair & Make Up: Laura Halgreen
Heart Biscuits: Lemon Canary Bakery
Model: Rossland from Models International
Photography: Bron Fourie from Vanilla Photography
Stationery: Ali Perks from Alice May Stationery
Styling & Flowers: Adore Weddings
Venue: Barker Manor

We’ve been featured!

What a honour! We’ve been featured on Wedding Album‘s blog! Thank you very much to Lisa Wallace for the interview, and a very special thank you to Fiona Clair Photography, Jacki Bruniquel and Vanilla Photography for their beautiful images.

See the full feature here. Enjoy friends x


Adore Weddings and Events By Lisa Wallace | June 25, 2014

Adore Weddings and Events is a KZN based wedding and events planning company headed by born romantic and experienced Wedding Planner Carolyn McNeil. Adore strives to bring to life your vision and hope for your special day.

‘I have a deep love for wide open spaces and growing things,’ says Carolyn when WA chatted to her. ‘I simply love weddings and feel honoured to be invited to be a part of someone’s special day.’

The Adore Weddings and Events team offers a variety of coordination, styling, flower and decor options. ‘We adore all things romantic, eclectic and wonderful, and aim to partner alongside our clients to create a uniquely tailored, stress free and memorable experience of laughter, love and light for you and your guests.’ We thought it fitting to ask Carolyn a few questions about wedding decor and styling trends right now.

What are the 5 hottest wedding trends this year?

A continuation of the gorgeous copper, gold and rose gold trend.

Raw wood tables.

Whimsical, boho weddings with wreaths, vines and pretty, loose, asymmetrical flower arrangements.

On the opposite side of the style scale, a return to very clean lines, clear glass, symmetry and pure white decor and flowers look set to happen toward to middle of 2015.

We’ll begin to see an introduction of deep burgundies, purples, cobalt and blacks as base colours, teamed with rich golds and / or silvers.

How do international trends differ from local trends?

The South African market tends to follow the international market by a season or two. That being said, Pinterest and social media have bridged this gap largely and often homegrown weddings are bang on trend with international markets. I do see a more personalised look for South African weddings, with personal and intimate details included in the decor and stationery.

What’s the most important things to remember when planning a wedding?

Remember why you’re planning this day. When details, budget and expectations become overwhelming, remember that the entire point of this day is that you’re marrying your best friend, and sharing the beauty of that moment with your closest friends and family.

In your experience, what’s the best way to bring out a couple’s personality in the decor scheme?

I’m a personal fan of planning your wedding around your personal style. Your wedding should ideally be like having special people over to your home for dinner – just on a bigger scale.

What advice do you have for couples trying to decide on their decor and colour scheme?

Don’t follow a trend or fashion unless it is already your intrinsic style. You need to live with your wedding photos, so if your decor is something you will love always, and if it is very personal to the two of you, you will always love it.

We’ve been blogged!

Dave & Clea’s beautiful, misty, Jewish / Portuguese / Greek / South African wedding has been featured on SouthBound Bride!

What an honour, and what a truly special wedding! Thank you Clea & Dave for the joy of getting to be a little part of your special day. And a very big thank you to Knot just pics for the beautiful images!

This is the team of special suppliers who helped to make this day as lovely as it was:

Catering: CHC
Coordination: Adore weddings
Decor & Flowers: Midlands Style Events
Entertainment: Beat Route
Photography: Knot Just Pics
Venue: Netherwood
Videography: Oliver’s Twist Productions

Enjoy friends!

We’ve been blogged!

We’ve been blogged! Our Secret Garden Styled Shoot has been featured on the Oh Darling Days blog!

A very big and happy thank you to all the suppliers involved in this romantic little collaboration:

Venue: Benvie Gardens
Photography: Kate Martens from The Girl in Gumboots Photography
Second shooter: Kirsty from Khulisa Projects
Hair & Make up: Robyn Bowles
Dresses: Tracey from Natural Selection
Stationery: Bron from Potpourri Box
Cakes & Macaroons: Kerry from Lemon Canary
Styling, decor & flowers: Carolyn from Adore Weddings

We’ve been blogged!

What an incredible honour and delight. Jacqui and Matt‘s wedding has been featured on SouthBound Bride! See the full, lovely SouthBound Bride post here.

An enormous thank you to everyone involved in making this special wedding a rocking success:

Hair & Make Up: By our very own bride, Jacs from Accentuate
Photography: Kate van Onselen
Videography: James Gibbs Studio
Dress: Julia Ferrandi Design
Venue: Netherwood
Coordination: Adore Weddings

Enjoy friends x

We’ve been featured!

What a honour! The Weekend Witness has featured our Enchanted Forest Styled Engagement shoot with the lovely Luis Dos Santos and Nicole Carreira in an article. Jacki Bruniquel, you are amazing! Thank you for the opportunity to get involved and play.

This is still one of my favorite styled shoots because it was such an exciting challenge, and because my creative boundaries were challenged and expanded. Jax and I dreamed up this enchanted, romantic shoot over the course of two weeks; locating it at Bishop’s Seat in Eshowe’s Dlinza Forest - the ideal setting for enchantment. What a joy to get to work with both a truly lovely couple and some of our favorite friends in the wedding industry.

A very big thank you to the dream team:
Photography: Jacki Bruniquel
Second shooter: Natasha Schoeman
Hair: Drew Christie from Evolve
Make Up: Charelle McAllister
Cheese Cake: Nikita Shaye Singh from Love & Cheese
Dress: Tracey Laubscher from Olivelli Durban
Location: The George Hotel in Eshowe
Styling, decor and flowers: Adore Weddings and Events

And most of all, thank you to Luis Dos Santos and Nicole Carreira for being such stars and putting up with our creative antics! Blessings to you both for your wedding in February, I can’t wait to see your wedding pics!

We’ve been blogged!

We have had the lovely honour of being featured on Midlandsmusings, a seriously lovely little blog (one of my all time favorites) by my very talented friend Keri Bainborough, which celebrates all things simply lovely about life in the Midlands. Being a Midlands girl myself, this is a blog which resonates with my soul!

Brett and Zara’s stunning Netherwood wedding cracked the nod for this happy feature. Photography by the incomparable Jacki Bruniquel, wedding flowers and decor by KZN legend Kerry Dinkleman (who also happened to do Keri’s wedding last year), hair and make up by Kym and styling by Adore Weddings.

Zara and Brett’s sensational wedding included no less than 500 wrought iron birds suspended from the ceiling of the venue … one of my favorite decor aspects from this wedding! Images also include some pretty snaps from a post-wedding styled shoot we did with them, complete with the cutest little red mini, red lips and red tulip flower crown! Let’s just say I had endless amounts of FUN with this couple!!!

See the full Midlandsmusings feature here. See Jacki Bruniquel’s full post of their beautiful weddings images here. Enjoy friends x

Thanks for the nod!

We’ve been given the lovely honour of being listed on Jacki Bruniquel‘s list of recommended vendors! Thank you so much for your lovely, kind words Jax! It is always a delight to get to work with you. So much love x

Please see Jacki’s full post here.